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March 30, 2008

On Flickr Stigma

A letter to Aphotoeditor

Rob

Very interesting thread.

I agree that the right marketing materials are needed for the segment you are looking to get work in, as in Rome, well you know the saying …. I think from the reaction here this is experiment you are running is something that “pros” feel for most part valuable and certainly they respect your leadership.

However, I get the feeling in this line “It’s not that difficult to see why I would think you’re an amateur if you put your images on Flickr. That’s what it was created for and that’s who primarily uses it.” that you may be missing something of value. I would argue that by focusing on the “amateurs” and not the audience we will be overlooking a valuable and sustainable marketing opportunity. You own an audience.

This audience of “amateurs” are the same people who consume a photographer’s images in mass magazines. They are the audience. They are the consumers. The photo editors are gate keepers and curators. They are powerful filters but they are not in the case of mass magazines the audience. By perpetuating the stigma, we are keeping photographers from an audience, from the audience.

I think by not encouraging some kind of long term involvement in a photographer’s body of work that a site like Flickr can offer through the mass audience platform it provides, we diminish a fantastic opportunity to connect with the very people who consume the photographs. I am not sure if magazines can make it happen themselves they have a vested interest in their brand - not in establishing a long term connection with broadest possible audience and enhancing the value of the photographer as recognizable.

By dismissing the vernacular aesthetic of Flickr with the audience we dismiss “the audience”. I think photographers coming into the business over the next few years will have this in their DNA. A few top tier photographer’s will have other methods of direct to audience marketing. The more intimate an audience is with a photographer, the more valuable the photographer becomes to the properties that hire them.

I am not an editorial photographer but have learned much form the readers contribution here over the last few months. Thanks for this valuable resource.

March 23, 2008

Video project

I wanted to update you on your interest in participating in the video project

As you may already know, I have created some short videos using the photographs in my stream and text and audio/sound derived from both original and other sources. Those films can be found here:

www.youtube.com/user/avproducer

My goal for this project is to push the boundaries of what I can do with multimedia tools, explore collaboration and the weaving of narratives and different voices. I am hoping to go beyond the slideshow so there is room to experiment.

The project's working title is "A grammar of motives". The title comes from a book by Kenneth Burke that I started to read back in 1979 and have never finished although I own two copies and frequently flip through them.

I am currently planning 5 sections to mirror Burke's dramatic pentad:
+ act
+ scene
+ agent
+ agency
+ purpose

More on Kenneth Burke here
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Burke

With that brief introduction to the project, this is how you can contribute.

Record an audio/video diary entry/entries about the intersections of your life (real or imagined) and the work in my photostream. The entry can be in the form of poem/letter/lullaby/rant.

Record a voice mail message to me about something that has just happened. You can report. I am open to other possibilities - pass the phone around a dinner party, dial in from a church service, a bathroom stall or call from the beach - the settings are endless.

An informal, intimate and authentic voice is all you need to bring!

You can contribute as much as you'd like and it would be helpful to me for you to identify your self at the beginning or the end of your call/recording.

To record you can call a voice mail box

646-495-9204 x 52402

or

Upload a file as MP3/WAV/MP4
URL: drop.io/rdiorio
dropio1

Click (add) File

You can email me via flickr mail with questions.

I appreciate your help and look forward to seeing what we get. I also anticipate the need to have some specific passages of text recorded and I may additionally each out to you for that.

I am hoping to complete the collection of material by mid April.